addressing the false claim that jehovah's witnesses do not think "independently.. .
http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/02/addressing-false-claim-that-jehovahs.html#.
from a wt apologist.. .
All you have to do is go to a Watchtower study to see independent thinking isn't allowed. At the WT study they ask you a question and you underline and repeat the answer they want to hear. Not exactly a free exchange of ideas.
I'm sure most of us can remember a new person, probably a study coming to the WT study and making a comment outside of the information given in the paragraph. They were gently informed that expressing your own ideas wasn't what the WT study was about.
wondering here and would like to get your thoughts.
how do the old-time anointed feel about the new light that they are no longer the fds and only the gb is the fds.
that's quite a change in concept, right?
I would imagine this change would come as a shock to them if any of them are still alive. The ones I knew were born around the turn of the last century so they are long gone by now.
They may have been planning this move for a while but were waiting for the originals (pre 1935) annointed to die off before executing their coup to take away their imaginary power.
the weather for february in texas can be punishing--but, not when apostates gather!.
it was at least 70 degrees and sunshine was spilling out of the heavens like copious golden coins from the fists of midas.. .
i assembled my crew of stalwarts before noon for the drive.
Possibly slightly embellished but it but it looks like you guys had a great time.
i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.
as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?
surely education should come first.
I left the witnesses many years ago so the JWs in my family don't tell me a whole lot of what is going on in their JW world and what I do hear is warped by their JW perspective. The following good example of that.
Years ago I heard that my wife's cousin's daughter had ran away from home. I believe she was 15 or 16 at the time. Of course at the time they were saying it was because she was evil. I didn't know the reason behind it till recently when we came in contact with each other through facebook. It turns out that what had happened was that she was offered a college scholarship but her parents would allow her to take advantage of it because the end was near and they wanted her to pioneer. She loved school and really wanted to further her education. She was so upset that they wouldn't let her take advantage of the offer that she ran away from home.
I'm hoping at some point she will join this forum and tell her story.
hi guys.
i'm interested in knowing whether any other faders out there ever find themselves feeling a little paranoid about establishing contact with other faders or former jws, just in case the unthinkable happens and things turn sour.. personally, i'm now fairly comfortable with the idea that i will be disfellowshipped or disassociated within the next year or so.
i see it as inevitable, and an essential transition in order to do what i want to do with my life.
Until you are ready to make a real commitment to getting out it is best to be cautious with who you share your information with because it all comes down very quickly once it gets in the hand of an active JW.
hi guys.
i'm interested in knowing whether any other faders out there ever find themselves feeling a little paranoid about establishing contact with other faders or former jws, just in case the unthinkable happens and things turn sour.. personally, i'm now fairly comfortable with the idea that i will be disfellowshipped or disassociated within the next year or so.
i see it as inevitable, and an essential transition in order to do what i want to do with my life.
i normally don't care when they hold their yearly anti-eucharist, anti-communion or whatever you want the damned thing but this year i'm going on vacation around that time.
if it falls within my vacation time i think my wife will want to go somewhere and attend it and that would suck but we could work it out.. .
The problem with your idea Emery is that it would involve having to go inside a KH and actually attend the meet. I have no desire to ever step in one again. I've only done it once since leave and that was for a funeral about 5 years ago.
i normally don't care when they hold their yearly anti-eucharist, anti-communion or whatever you want the damned thing but this year i'm going on vacation around that time.
if it falls within my vacation time i think my wife will want to go somewhere and attend it and that would suck but we could work it out.. .
Oh good! I'm not going till the 31st so I'm ok.
i normally don't care when they hold their yearly anti-eucharist, anti-communion or whatever you want the damned thing but this year i'm going on vacation around that time.
if it falls within my vacation time i think my wife will want to go somewhere and attend it and that would suck but we could work it out.. .
I normally don't care when they hold their yearly anti-eucharist, anti-communion or whatever you want the damned thing but this year I'm going on vacation around that time. If it falls within my vacation time I think my wife will want to go somewhere and attend it and that would suck but we could work it out.
your relationship with god will then be like that of those christians to whom paul wrote: you do not belong to yourselves, for you were bought with a price.
for example, the comments jesus made about one.
master, jesus christ.1 cor.
COMMENTS
Stewards = not women
Positions of great trust = is that why no women qualify?
Loyal Christians who are not overseers = only men,never women?
What gifts are women viewed as having = cleaning, cooking, child raising?
Like any organization that doesn't view women as equals they are shooting themselves in the foot. They are like an engine firing on only half its cylinders. In their case I think it is a good thing. Let them stumble on with their antiquated ideas and hopefully they will eventually fade away.
Like any organization that doesn't view women as equals they are shooting themselves in the foot. They are like an engine firing on only half its cylinders. In their case I think it is a good thing. Let them stumble on with their antiquated ideas and hopefully they will eventually fade away.
